Thursday, May 28, 2015

The "Extraordinary Living" blog has MOVED!

After writing the "Extraordinary Living" blog from here on BlogSpot for the past six years, we have moved the blog!

You can now find my blog on my ministry website at, and click here to go directly to the blog. I hope you'll move with us, it has been a blessing to interact with so many of you over the years. Come read the blog at the new location, and while you're there you can explore the blog to learn more about the Scott Free Clinic. AND, take our weekly survey while there!

I'll see you at our new home site!


Saturday, May 23, 2015

How, then, should we pray?

It seems we like to argue about anything in the church. You'll even find multiple dogmatic opinions about what posture we should take when we pray.

Someone has vividly expressed this in a humorous little poem ...

"'The proper way for man to pray' said Deacon Lemuel Keyes;
'The only proper attitude is down upon his knees.'
'Nay, I should say the way to pray,' said Reverend Doctor Wise,
'Is standing straight with outstretched arms with rapt and upturned eyes.'
'Oh no, no, no,' said Elder Snow, 'such posture is too proud.'
'A man should pray with eyes fast-closed and head contritely bowed.'
'It seems to me his hands should be austerely clasped in front
With both thumbs pointing to the ground,' said Reverend Doctor Blunt.
'Last year I fell in Hodgkin's well headfirst,' said Cyril Brown.
'With both my heels a-stickin' up, my head a-pointing down;
And I done prayed right then and there; best prayer I ever said,
The prayin-est prayer I ever prayed, a-standin' on my head.'"

The fact is, effective prayer can be experienced in a variety of postures. Victor Hugo once said, "There are thoughts which are prayers. There are moments when, whatever the posture of the body, the soul is on its knees."

Prayer is conversation with God, and as in conversing with anyone, our physical posture is a personal expression of what we trying to communicate. There are times our prayers are parades of praise for our God; other times we're making supplication for others, or we're seeking help for ourselves. Sometimes, it's a time for talking to our best friend. Because what we convey to God is different each time we pray, mixing up our postures makes for a more natural and authentic communication with God.

Following are five basic postures we see people in the Bible take when praying that we can include as different postures for our own prayers:

Sitting is probably the most common posture practiced in prayer. But even then, our posture in that position can vary greatly. Some sit with head bowed and eyes closed; others with face toward heaven and hands raised. Some people pull up an empty chair and pray as if Jesus is sitting there and they're having a conversation with Him, speak audibly as if the Lord were sitting in the empty chair.

Standing is another option for praying. Again, there are a variety of postures in this position as well, whether head is bowed or raised, eyes are closed or open. Often when people pray standing they feel inclined to lift their hands toward heaven in a more personal expression of adoration, pleading, or whatever their conversation may be.

One of my favorite postures for prayer is that of walking. I enjoy having a conversation with God while taking a walk, whether it's while hiking a trail, strolling along city sidewalks, or lingering down a sandy beach. Praying while walking, for me, becomes a very personal exchange of conversation between my Creator and me. The posture lends itself to a deeper authenticity, as if I was sharing personal time with my best friend.

Kneeling is an expression of humbling ourselves before God. This posture helps us to bring ourselves low before the Lord and exalt Him.

One of the least practiced postures for prayer in the Western world is that of prostrating oneself on the ground before the Lord. Of all the postures for prayer, this most expresses a surrender, yielding, and worship before our God.

Mixing these postures to match the messages of our prayers helps us to further communicate to God our thoughts and heart before Him. Adding postures you don't usually practice could help freshen and deepen your prayer life. I encourage you to add some of these postures to your time of prayer and see if it doesn't help you in drawing close to God.


Your graduates are now educated, BUT ...

I'm "pro" education.

Personally, I've earned three degrees and feel every day the need to keep learning. And I encourage people, young and old, to take advantage of educational opportunities and continuing their learning throughout their lives.

Graduation is a time to celebrate! The graduates have worked hard, applied themselves, and likely have grown as a person, expanded their knowledge, and stretched their understanding.

Your graduates are now educated, BUT are they equipped for life?

In America, and much of the Western world, we've concluded that seeing that our children receive a good education is the highest priority for parents.

It isn't.

Making sure your children enter into a covenant relationship with Jesus Christ and grow in the grace and knowledge of God is the highest priority of parenting. If you raise a genius that passes through this world never knowing Jesus Christ, your child will come to the worse possible end.

Graduation is a time to celebrate, but if your graduate doesn't know Jesus, the most important education is yet to be attained.

There's a story about a young man who was getting ready to graduate from college. For many months he had admired a beautiful sports car, and knowing his father could afford it, he told his dad on several occasions that it was all he wanted.

Finally, on the morning of his graduation, the young man's father called him into his private study. His father told him how proud he was to have such a fine son, and how much he loved him. Then he handed his son a beautifully wrapped gift box. Curious, but disappointed, the young man opened the box and found a lovely, leather-bound Bible, with the young man's name embossed in gold.

Angrily, he raised his voice to his father, "With all your money you give me a Bible?" And then he stormed out of the house, leaving the Bible behind.

Many years passed and the young man had become very successful in business. He had a wonderful family and beautiful home, but realized his father was getting quite old and thought perhaps he should go to him. He had not seen his father since that graduation day. But before he could make arrangements, the young man received notice that his father had passed away, and that he needed to come home immediately to take care of things.

When he arrived at his father's house, sudden sadness and regret filled his heart. He began to search through his father's important papers and saw the still new Bible, just as he had left it years ago. With tears, he opened the Bible and began to turn the pages when a car key dropped from the back of the Bible. It had a tag with the dealer's name, and on the tag was the date of his graduation along with the words, "Paid in full."

Parents like to heap rewards upon their graduates, and there's nothing wrong with that. But make sure your graduate is educated in the Word of God to equip them for life. It will provide them with the greatest education they'll ever need.


Friday, May 22, 2015

BOOK REVIEW: Not what I thought it would be ...

John Michael Talbot writing about the church fathers?

How could I pass up a book like that?

After all, I enjoy reading the works of the early church fathers, and Talbot, a pioneer in contemporary Christian music, might bring some interesting perspective to their writings.

Unfortunately, his latest book, "The Ancient Path" (with Mike Aquilina, published by Image), wasn't what I thought it would be. As it turns out, this book is all about the influence the church fathers had on Talbot's life as he journeyed from his early Christian experience into Catholicism.

Talbot's writing is thick with a Catholic view of the church fathers, which tends to be more elevated than that held by Protestants. There are numerous mentions of the various church fathers, but not a diving into their writings or any plumbing of their teachings. Instead, most of the mention of the church fathers was incorporated in a nearly chronological telling of Talbot's life. While I appreciate that his study of the church fathers had a positive impact on his life, and especially influenced him toward a desire for a more monastic lifestyle, I found the content of the book to actually become fairly boring less than midway through my reading.

If you're a Catholic who is a Talbot fan, you may enjoy this book; if you aren't, I haven't found any other value in it to be able to recommend it.


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Real commitment will cost you. The question is, are you willing to pay the price?

When professor Dr. Jim Denison was in college, he went on a summer mission trip to East Malaysia. While there, he worked in a small church. At one of the church's worship services, a baptism had been planned for one of the teenage girls who attended. She had announced to the pastor and the church, in their custom, that she had decided to commit her life to Christ and wanted to be baptized. During the service, Jim noticed some worn-out luggage leaning against the back wall of the church building. After the service, he asked the pastor about it. The pastor pointed to the young lady that had just been baptized and said, "Her father told her that if she was ever baptized as a Christian, she could never come home again. So, she brought her luggage."

That young lady was serious about committing her life, and the living of it, to Jesus Christ.

How about you?

Are your bags packed?

Are you willing to pay whatever the price is to follow Christ?

It's a hefty cost, and Jesus described it for us succinctly ...

"Then he said to the crowd, 'If any of you wants to be my follower, you must turn from your selfish ways, take up your cross daily, and follow me'," Luke 9:23.


Saturday, May 9, 2015

Broken hearts in broken people ...

Did you know it really is possible to die of a broken heart?

Linda Wasmer Andrews reported the following in Yahoo Health in 2013 ...

"'Broken heart syndrome' isn't just Valentine's Day hyperbole. It's an actual medical condition, also known as stress-induced cardiomyopathy.

"In broken heart syndrome, extreme stress brings on heart attack-like symptoms, such as chest pain and shortness of breath. This isn't just an anxiety attack. The heart is actually in serious distress. At times, the person may experience irregular heartbeats or cardiogenic shock --- a condition in which a suddenly weakened heart can't pump enough blood to meet the body's demands. In rare cases, broken heart syndrome can even lead to death."

I don't personally know of anyone who has literally died of a broken heart, but I have sat with many, many people who felt like their broken hearts were killing them.

In nearly three decades of conducting clinical therapy, a large portion of the people I have ministered to have sought help for hurting hearts that were harmed by others. The issue of human beings hurting each other isn't just my clinical experience, it's the story of humanity since the first couple wandered together in the Garden of Eden. They would break their relationship with God. From there, one of their sons would hate his brother so much he would murder him out in a field.

It hasn't gotten any better since.

We're still hurting each other, and suffering broken hearts. That's in spite of Jesus making so clear --- and so simple to understand! --- that all God's commands can be boiled down to two things: love God, and love others.

When I was younger, I enjoyed watching on PBS specials the lively and animated speeches of "Dr. Love," also known as Leo Buscaglia, an author, motivational speaker, and professor in the special education department at the University of Southern California. Leo was an Italian who spent his early childhood in Aosta, Italy. He sounded Italian, and "used his hands" as he spoke passionately. I still remember a heart-felt plea he made to an audience: "If you won't love them, don't hurt them!"

Take five minutes and listen to the stirring words of Leo for yourself ...

God especially cares for those with broken hearts ...

"The Lord is close to the brokenhearted; he rescues those whose spirits are crushed," Psalm 34:18

"He heals the brokenhearted and bandages their wounds," Psalm 147:3.

Many will not heed Leo's advice that if we're not willing to love others, at least don't hurt them. We will not get through this life without being heartbroken. But know for sure that the Lord, who knows by personal experience what being hurt by others is like, is close to you and desires to bandage your wounds and heal you.

Just as you don't want to suffer from a broken heart, be mindful not to hurt others. Instead, give your attention to allowing the Holy Spirit to empower you to love others --- all others --- with the love of Christ.


Friday, May 8, 2015

Communion Meditation: Getting the message ...

When I came across the story below, it didn't have any attribution for a source. I still haven't been able to discover its author, but I want to share the story with you ...

"It is said that on the evening of June 18, 1815 a man stood in the tower of England’s Winchester Cathedral gazing anxiously out to sea. At last he found what he was looking for – a ship sending a signal by use of lights. He strained to see the message. All of England held its breath with him, wanting to know the outcome of the war between their military leader, the Duke of Wellington, and the French dictator Napoleon Bonaparte. Bonaparte, who had once ruled all of Europe bar England remained a threat, and now the decisive Battle of Waterloo had been fought.

"So, as he stood in the tower of Winchester Cathedral our man waited to relay the news that would determine England’s future. The signal came just as a heavy fog was rolling in. It only just got through, but how he wished it hadn’t, for the signal read: 'Wellington defeated.'

"The man signaled to other stations and the news spread across the countryside, bringing great gloom and sadness. But then a great reversal. The fog lifted, and the message was sent again, this time in full: 'Wellington defeated the enemy.' Joy? Happiness? Delirium! Wellington had won!

"On Good Friday it seemed the message was 'Christ defeated,' but three days later we discover that the message had not been received in full. The resurrection reverses what we initially thought and declares 'Christ defeated the enemy!'"

Christ has fought the battle of the ages on our behalf. When we come to the Communion table and partake of the emblems representing His shed blood and broken body, the idea of His torture and death seems to be a story of defeat.

But we know the whole story!

"Christ suffered for our sins once for all time. He never sinned, but he died for sinners to bring you safely home to God. He suffered physical death, but he was raised to life in the Spirit," 1 Peter 3:18.

It was by offering His body to be broken, and His blood to be shed, that He would defeat sin and death forever. Each time we gather at the Lord's Table, we receive afresh the communique that "Christ defeated the enemy!"

Ponder for a while what that means for you ...


Thursday, May 7, 2015

In this world, YOU are needed desperately!

A nurse escorted a tired, anxious young man to the bed side of an elderly man.

“Your son is here,” she whispered to the patient. She had to repeat the words several times before the patient’s eyes opened.

He was heavily sedated because of the pain of his heart attack and he dimly saw the young man standing outside the oxygen tent. He reached out his hand and the young man tightly wrapped his fingers around it, squeezing a message of encouragement. The nurse brought a chair next to the bedside. All through the night the young man sat holding the old man's hand, and offering gentle words of hope. The dying man said nothing as he held tightly to his son.

As dawn approached, the patient died. The young man placed on the bed the lifeless hand he had been holding, and then he went to notify the nurse.

While the nurse did what was necessary, the young man waited. When she had finished her task, the nurse began to say words of sympathy to the young man.

But he interrupted her. “Who was that man?” he asked.

The startled nurse replied, “I thought he was your father!"

“No, he was not my father,” he answered. “I never saw him before in my life."

“Then why didn’t you say something when I took you to him?” asked the nurse.

The young man replied, “I knew he needed his son, and his son just wasn’t here. When I realized he was too sick to tell whether or not I was his son, I knew how much he needed me.”

Fellow Christian, in this world, YOU are needed desperately!

We live in a world broken from, and full of sin and it's ugly consequences; people are lost and dying without Christ and there's no one to come alongside and care for them.

That was a real problem even when Jesus Christ walked this earth. He highlighted the issue, and the need for our stepping into lives to care for others, by telling what has become a very popular story ...

"Jesus replied with a story: 'A Jewish man was traveling from Jerusalem down to Jericho, and he was attacked by bandits. They stripped him of his clothes, beat him up, and left him half dead beside the road. By chance a priest came along. But when he saw the man lying there, he crossed to the other side of the road and passed him by. A Temple assistant walked over and looked at him lying there, but he also passed by on the other side. Then a despised Samaritan came along, and when he saw the man, he felt compassion for him. Going over to him, the Samaritan soothed his wounds with olive oil and wine and bandaged them. Then he put the man on his own donkey and took him to an inn, where he took care of him. The next day he handed the innkeeper two silver coins, telling him, "Take care of this man. If his bill runs higher than this, I’ll pay you the next time I’m here. Now which of these three would you say was a neighbor to the man who was attacked by bandits?' Jesus asked. The man replied, 'The one who showed him mercy.' Then Jesus said, 'Yes, now go and do the same',” Luke 10:30-37.

Neither of these stories are talking about "sharing a smile" or being polite or kind to others. They're about stepping deeply into the needs of others and walking them through life's harshest moments, being a resource for healing or a source of strength and encoouragement in life's deepest valleys.

The story Jesus tells is given to motivate us to spend ourselves on loving and caring for others in need, because others won't do it.

Will you?


Wednesday, May 6, 2015

The part of prayer --- and ourselves ---- we need to change ...

There's something about prayer some church leaders and some fellow Christians keep telling us to do that needs to change.

I don't think most of them do it purposely, I think in most cases they're simply not thinking through what they're saying, they're just telling us what everyone tells us.

What are they telling us about prayer that needs to change?

They keep telling us to make requests of God in prayer for what we can do for ourselves.

Really, this has become pervasive, as if we want God to drop things into our laps that we should have already done for ourselves.

A great illustration of this comes from a story about when pastor, author, and sociologist Tony Campolo was once a guest speaker at a mission rally, when he was asked to lead in prayer for a missionary doctor the group supported. The goal of the prayer? That God might provide the $5,000 urgently needed for the medical center the doctor ran.
Tony refused.

He knew his audience was made up of people who were materially prosperous. So he declared he would pray only after everyone in the room gave to the project the money they had on them that day. The audience was stunned, but when Tony started emptying his pockets they knew he was serious. After some hesitation, everyone started following suit. The prayer of request soon became a prayer of thanksgiving, for by the end of the giving they had collected $8,000, much more than was needed in the first place!

Why ask God to provide $5,000 when the people present were already blessed by God with the capacity to give even more than that? What was needed was action on the part of the Christians present. Then they could rejoice together and offer praise and thanksgiving to God for what they were able to do with the abundance He had already supplied to them.

Are you asking God for something you should be doing yourself  because He has already supplied you with the means accomplish it? Are you making requests of God when you should be acting, and then offering thanksgiving and praise? I encourage you to examine the content of your prayers to see if this pattern of waiting on God to do what He has already enabled you to do has slipped into your conversations with God.

I also want to encourage you to take of the abundance of blessings God has given you in time, treasure, and talent, and use them for His glory so that you can spend more time in thanksgiving and praise. By no means am I discouraging making our real requests of God known to Him --- even persistently so! --- but let's first make sure what we ask for isn't really asking God to do what we should be doing.


Tuesday, May 5, 2015

Do you see the rabbit?

If the world really is becoming an even darker, uglier, more dangerous place ...

If the return of Christ is so much closer ...

... isn't it time for us to purposely become less comfortable and truly sacrificial?

Isn't it time we leave our armchair quarterbacking and couch commentating and fully engage in being Christ's ambassadors to the world as we are called to be (2 Cor. 5:18-20)?

A story is told in the tradition of the Desert Fathers. One day a young monk asked one of the Desert Fathers why it was that so many came into the desert seeking God and yet most of them did not stay, but returned to the outside world. The old monk said, "Yesterday my dog spied a rabbit in the bushes and began to give chase. He barked with joy and the other dogs heard his bark and joined in the chase. Soon, however, dogs began to drop out of the hunt. A few stayed with the chase through the night, but in the morning only my dog continued chasing the rabbit. Do you understand what I have told you?"

"No," replied the young monk, "please tell me."

"It's simple," said the old monk, "my dog saw the rabbit."

Many Christians are like these dogs. They're running in a hunt for something they haven't seen for themselves, at least not recently. There was a time they "saw" Christ, but they've long ago filled their view with other things, and so they've been dropping out of the hunt. I'm convinced when we see Christ, and keep our eyes on Him, the last thing we can settle for is sitting comfortably on the sidelines in a world where the majority of people are lost without Christ.

What we see drives us to become more than uncomfortable, it compels us to sacrifice. In Matthew 13:45-46 is the story of a merchant ...

"Again, the Kingdom of Heaven is like a merchant on the lookout for choice pearls. When he discovered a pearl of great value, he sold everything he owned and bought it!"

Like that merchant, when we see Jesus, we'll sacrifice EVERYTHING to know Him, to walk with Him, to worship, serve, and glorify Him. We will sacrifice EVERYTHING to be His disciples, living and loving in this world the way He lived and loved when He walked on this earth.

Why, then, do we remain so disengaged and personally comfortable?

It cannot be because of what we see in Christ, or Christ in us!

If we refresh our vision with who Jesus really is, and the great grace with which we get to be His ambassadors, we cannot help put become fully engaged --- sacrificially so --- in taking the Gospel to the lost and serving the hurting, the helpless, the least and the lost among us.

The real question isn't whether you see the rabbit, but do you really see Jesus?


Monday, May 4, 2015

Just how effective is this disciple-making training? Look what it did to this church leader ...

A ministry of Scott Free Clinic
The "It's All About Relationship" (IAAR) model for making disciples is the most effective way to lead people into a covenant relationship with Jesus Christ that I have seen.

Just how effective is this eight-week online class taught by my ministry partner, John Hendee, through Hope International University? Well, check out this feedback from one course participant who, almost three decades ago, trained hundreds of people through the IAAR!

That was then, but stepping into the new training now has helped him measure his current effectiveness as an ambassador for Christ and reignited his passion for sharing the Gospel. In responding to a query of how the course has changed his outlook regarding personal evangelism, here's what this minister and church leader wrote ...

"Intentional living with obedience to Christ in my desire to love him in response to his love for me: without being aware of how much my passion has been in decline for loving people in the same way Jesus loves people, I have grown soft and way too comfortable with the conditions of my life. I hold a 'job' in the Kingdom of God that leaves me spending most of my waking hours in touch with other Christian leaders, assisting them in their ministries to the local church. In only one location am I directly involved in those ministries. During my 'working hours' (60-70 a week on average) I am immersed in conversations with other Christians, helping to hold them accountable to the calling in their lives. Ouch. I suppose it is something like being a general in the army. I am away from the 'battle fields', consulting with those who are on the front lines. The invitation for 'softness' surrounds me. In my aging years, I have somehow embraced the softness. No more. With God's help, no more.

"The last time I read 'The Master Plan of Evangelism' was 45 years ago. I have held that "I am familiar with that book - I have already read it" stance. I should have been reading it every year of my life. What a wake up call.

"It is not that I have been completely absent from the front line. I have memorized the names of all my immediate neighbors. I pray for them. I look for them. I drop everything I am doing, on purpose, whenever I see them, and walk to them for conversations. I have not been clueless to the call. I want them to know Jesus. I visit the same grocery stores and look for clerks I know and I engage them in every way I know how. But still, the edge of sharp focus has been absent. God, I did it! I lost the urgency of the moment for loving people at all costs in the same way you have loved me. I am ready to wake up. My wife and I are drawing up steps to change our approach to living. We are ready to change our lifestyles. We are sensing a call to be teammates on high alert, looking for every moment God gives us for being a part of the wholeness of the great commission.

"My wife Vivian is also invested in this course. We want to thank John Hendee, Hope International University, the authors of the books we have read, and all of our engaged fellow students. Vivian and I are praying that God will not allow us to step back one inch from our new ambitions to more completely serve Him, and that in 6 months, we will not have lost a step in our renewed determination to be fully focused on Him in His all out pursuit of loving people with His gospel. Rather, we are praying for more investment to Him."

It's one thing to talk about (or even teach about) making disciples, but for many it's another to actually be a disciple-maker. You actually have to get out there and share the Gospel, making new disciples, to be a disciple maker!

We can help you get equipped so that you can effectively and confidently share the Gospel and be an effective disciple-making ambassador for Jesus Christ. Email me here and I'll send you information about the online "Relational Evangelism" course through Hope International University. The cost for the course is only $50. The next class begins June 1, and registration deadline is May 18. Let's get you enrolled right away!


Saturday, May 2, 2015

Are you addicted to entertainment?

Football fans have been waiting for this weekend. For several weeks sports talk shows have been slammed with calls and connections with predictions from their audiences about what might happen at this year's NFL draft.

Now that the draft is concluding, what's one of the loudest responses heard?

"It was so boring!"

Let's interpret that more correctly so that we understand what so many really are saying, which is something more like this ...

"Entertain me! Entertain me! Entertain me!"

Many people are whining that the NFL draft was boring. Well let me ask you this: When was the last time you observed major employment negotiations and their announcements as being a form of entertainment?

That, after all, is what the draft really is: a business hiring new employees. In spite of that reality, we complain about it being boring. A couple of sports talk show hosts last night went as far as suggesting that when a team goes "on the clock," the NFL should have a band from that team's city perform to make the wait more entertaining!

That's just one of so many examples of just how self-absorbed we have become. With smartphones in our pockets to provide videos to watch, music to listen to, social media to update, texts for "conversations," and games to play, we are filling every minute with some form of keeping ourselves "entertained." And when something isn't entertaining for us, we consider it boring and not worthy of our interest or attention.

That reminds me of the time when British actor Michael Wilding was asked if actors had any traits which set them apart from other human beings.

"Without a doubt," he replied. "You can pick out actors by the glazed look that comes into their eyes when the conversation wanders away from themselves."

In like manner, we've become so self-absorbed that even when we're with others, it's still all about us.

One cold winter's day a crowd of people stood in front of a pet shop window and watched a litter of puppies snuggling up to each other. One woman laughed and said, "What a delightful picture of brotherhood! Look at how those puppies are keeping each other warm!" A man next to her replied, "No, ma'am, they're not keeping each other warm --- they're keeping themselves warm."

With such an addiction to being constantly entertained, is it any wonder that so many churches feed that addiction? Sunday mornings have, in many churches, become an entertaining show with a motivational speech or self-help seminar rather than other-focused fellowship, worship that lowers ourselves and lifts Christ, and biblical messages with some theological heft.

There is nothing wrong with having some entertainment in our lives, but we've twisted that to be a need for constantly being entertained. At the heart of such a demand is a centering and focus on self, an orientation that now should be increasingly alien to the Christian ...

"My old self has been crucified with Christ. It is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me. So I live in this earthly body by trusting in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me," Galatians 2:20.

If Christ lives in us, we will no longer have a desire to fill every moment of our lives with the entertainments of this world. We learn to take the focus off of ourselves and find interest in listening to others, especially the Lord.

If you have a hunger for constantly being entertained, at the root of that is likely a spiritual hunger that only Jesus Christ can quench.